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Why Titanium Lead Time Is Usually About the Bar, Not the Machine
Buyers expect the machine to set the lead time. On titanium parts it frequently does not. The bar does.
A shop can have capacity free tomorrow and still quote six weeks, because the size you need is not on any shelf within reach. Understanding that changes how you write an RFQ.
The four stock forms
| Form | Typical standard | Usually available | Good for |
|---|---|---|---|
| Round bar | ASTM B348, AMS 4928 | Common diameters in Grade 2 and Grade 5 | Turned parts, blocks, most machined components |
| Plate and sheet | ASTM B265 | Common thicknesses in Grade 2, fewer in Grade 5 | Flat parts, brackets, covers |
| Tube and pipe | ASTM B338, B861 | Grade 2 widely, Grade 9 for frames | Fittings, thin walled cylindrical parts |
| Forging or near net | Customer drawing | Made to order | High volume parts with poor buy to fly |
The form you start from decides two numbers: how much material you pay for and how much of it becomes chips.
Buy to fly, briefly
Buy to fly is the ratio between the weight of stock bought and the weight of the finished part. In aluminium a poor ratio is wasteful. In titanium it is expensive, because the bar costs several times more per kilo.
A bracket machined from a solid block can easily leave most of the bar on the floor. The same bracket from plate, or from a near net forging, can cut the material line substantially. On a first article the forging tooling will not pay for itself. On an annual quantity of a few hundred it often will.
Ask the shop to tell you the stock size it priced. That single number tells you whether there is money on the table.
What is actually on the shelf
This varies by region and by distributor, but the pattern is consistent.
Usually available, days not weeks
- Grade 2 round bar in common diameters
- Grade 5 round bar in common diameters
- Grade 2 plate in common thicknesses
- Grade 2 tube in standard sizes
Sometimes available, ask early
- Grade 5 plate, especially thicker sections
- Grade 9 tube
- Larger diameter Grade 5 bar
- Grade 23 ELI bar in common sizes
Usually a mill order, weeks
- Grade 7, Grade 11 and Grade 12 in most sizes
- Grade 23 in an unusual size
- Thick Grade 5 plate
- Anything to AMS 4928 where the distributor stocks only B348
- Anything with a 3.2 certificate requirement
That last row catches people. The grade and the size may both be in stock, but if the heat on the shelf does not carry the certificate your drawing demands, it is not your material.
Lead time, honestly broken down
For a typical Grade 5 machined part in a modest quantity:
| Stage | Typical |
|---|---|
| Quote | Within 24 business hours from a shop that runs titanium |
| Material, common size in stock | 1 to 5 days |
| Material, mill order | 4 to 12 weeks |
| Programming and fixturing | 2 to 10 days depending on complexity |
| Machining | Depends on quantity and cycle |
| Outside finishing | 3 to 7 days plus transport each way |
| Inspection and first article report | 1 to 5 days |
Two of those rows dominate, and neither is machining. Material availability and outside finishing decide most titanium delivery dates.
How to write an RFQ that gets a real date
State your deadline. A shop that knows the date can check stock before it quotes, instead of quoting a standard lead time and discovering the problem later.
Say whether the stock form is negotiable. If you drew it from bar but plate would do, say so. The shop may have plate.
Say whether the size is negotiable. If a 60 mm bar is not available but 63.5 mm is, and the part fits inside either, the difference can be weeks.
Name the standard and the certificate. AMS 4928 versus ASTM B348 is a stock question, not just a paperwork question.
Say whether this repeats. A shop that knows an annual quantity is coming may buy a full bar instead of a cut length, or propose a forging.
When speed matters more than price
If the date is the constraint, say so explicitly and ask the shop to quote against what it can get quickly. Options that often exist:
- A different bar diameter that is in stock, with slightly more machining.
- Plate instead of bar, or bar instead of plate.
- Grade 2 instead of Grade 5, where the load case allows it.
- Splitting the order: a few pieces from stock now, the balance from a mill order.
- Dropping a certificate requirement that is not actually needed, which can unlock material already on the shelf.
None of those are available to a shop that was not told the date mattered. Put it on the RFQ.
Frequently asked questions
Why do titanium lead times vary so much between shops?
Usually material, not capacity. Common Grade 5 bar sizes sit on distributor shelves and ship next day. An unusual diameter, a thick plate, an ELI heat or a corrosion grade can mean a mill order measured in weeks before a chip is cut.
Can I supply my own titanium bar?
You can, and it sometimes makes sense if you already hold stock or have a supply agreement. Be aware that free issue material moves the scrap risk to you, and most shops will quote the machining without any warranty on the material itself.
Is a forging worth it?
On repeating parts with a poor buy to fly ratio, often yes. A near net forging carries a tooling cost and a lead time of its own, so it rarely pays on a first article or a quantity of ten. Ask the shop to model it once the annual quantity is known.
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